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Religion / Philosophy Talk / Re: Logic as a 'transcendent' concept.
« Last post by estockly on Today at 01:23:41 PM »
From a pure philosophical point of view I would argue that we never actually observe gravity. We observe things and attribute it to gravity via logic.

Right, via logic, science and math. Gravity is part of reality, as is matter and other forms of energy. Logic, science and math are the meager tools we use to understand reality.

But, as you point out, those tools have limitations, they are not complete, nor infallible. They don't tell us everything about gravity or mass or energy. We are always trying to improve them.

So how do those tools exist without humans? Our logic today is better understood than it was by the early greeks who first developed it as a tool. Did their inferior logic exist before they developed it? Did it cease to exist as modern logic replaced it?

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General Discussion / Re: LeeTheAgent passed away
« Last post by Skulker on Today at 01:22:24 PM »
This is sad news. It really sucks when people die. 35 is way to young to pass on. I'm going to look up some of his posts.

This brings up an issue. How would we know when some of us pass away? Unless we have contact out side the forum we would just disappear. I mean there are posters that just stop posting and you never know what happens to them (besides the ones that got banned). I guess it doesn't matter it was just a thought.

This thought has crossed my mind many times. If someone who frequently posts passes, how are we to know?
You have to plan ahead. Leave your Online information in your will and have your executor log on to each site and announce your passing.
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Forum Games / Re: Fact or Crap? 2014 Edition Reboot
« Last post by HighPockets on Today at 01:20:49 PM »
A Patent? Really? Someone was so enamored with this idea that they thought they needed protection?

I'm going with Crap.
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Forum Games / Re: Fact or Crap? 2014 Edition Reboot
« Last post by drwfishesman on Today at 01:18:12 PM »

Monday, December 22
In 1999, a U.S. patent was granted for the Gerbil Shirt, a vest-shirt that contains transparent enclosed tubular compartments and passageways to accommodate a pet gerbil or rodent.

Fact
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Forum Games / Re: Celebrity Death Pool 2014
« Last post by Tatyana on Today at 01:05:59 PM »
Crap, I can't remember who I predicted last year.

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Forum Games / Celebrity Death Pool 2014
« Last post by Friendly Angel on Today at 01:02:26 PM »
Been a slow year for the grim reaper.  Nobody had Joe Cocker who died today.

Pants! has Mohammed Ali which could score a pie wedge for him in the next couple days and practically lock in the best score - looks like nobody will actually "win".

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Forum Games / Re: Fact or Crap? 2014 Edition Reboot
« Last post by DK on Today at 01:01:56 PM »
Fact.
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Tech Talk / Re: Sony Hack
« Last post by Friendly Angel on Today at 12:52:52 PM »
The Verge reports this morning that NK's already limited Internet has suddenly suffered a nearly complete collapes today.
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  "I haven’t seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of internet analysis at Dyn Research, told North Korea Tech. "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently." The premise is particularly relevant given recent statements by President Obama, which promised a "proportional response" to the recent attack on Sony.

Does this mean we counter-hacked them?  Does USA have plausible deniability?  (some private citizen took down NK's communication system?)
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Podcast Episodes / Re: Episode #493
« Last post by Plastiq on Today at 12:48:34 PM »
The SGU team do a great job of skeptical outreach and I am most certainly glad of their work.

However, they should be careful of having their hard-fought and well-deserved good reputation undermined by rouges appearing in public (or on normal podcasts) drunk. It shows a lack of professionalism and disrespect for the audience.

My 2 cents.

I find drunk Rebecca pretty painful, too. Shame, because it seems to be an invariable pattern for the live shows.
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Tech Talk / Re: Sony Hack
« Last post by MikeHz on Today at 12:45:31 PM »
The Verge reports this morning that NK's already limited Internet has suddenly suffered a nearly complete collapes today.
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  "I haven’t seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of internet analysis at Dyn Research, told North Korea Tech. "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently." The premise is particularly relevant given recent statements by President Obama, which promised a "proportional response" to the recent attack on Sony.
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